Hi Christine, I'm going to bang my antibody drum again. The existence of very specific (misnamed) 'antibodies' to thousands of proteins has been demonstrated millions of times over, they are a wonder of nature.
The issue is that there is no reason to think that the proteins they bind to, some which may well be produced by the body to stim…
Hi Christine, I'm going to bang my antibody drum again. The existence of very specific (misnamed) 'antibodies' to thousands of proteins has been demonstrated millions of times over, they are a wonder of nature.
The issue is that there is no reason to think that the proteins they bind to, some which may well be produced by the body to stimulate detox symptoms, come from a 'virus' and not the cell. Antibodies to these proteins are produced by the body weeks after the detox event so can't be involved in 'immunity' to an 'infection'. Neutralising antibodies (that block the CPEs caused by adding the samples from sick patients to cell culture, or just be stressing cell cultures) are produced in up to 30x titre in the convalescent, homeostatic phase of detox.
Hi G&D. Chris was referring to antibodies that are supposedly highly specific to a "chickenpox virus", so that is what I was commenting on. I would also challenge one to provide evidence of antibodies that are specific to "the spike protein".
I've not looked into antibodies generally, but have read your description of the procedure in mice and didn't find it convincing. It's very unnatural and seems like indirect and inconclusive evidence - injecting mice with a (purified?) human protein, killing them, fusing B cells from their spleens with cancer cells, adding PEG, then adding all of that to a tissue section, adding dye and then observing where the dye goes?? And not doing the same procedure with other loads of other injected substances as controls?
No offence taken. The technique is not sketchy at all and the procedure IS done with loads (thousands) of other injected substances acting as controls, all of them staining specifically where expected over and over in tissue morphology and not where not expected. You have not had my experience and I'm not good at conveying how established and reproducible and amazing this direct and conclusive phenomena is. It's nothing at all like virology. No matter.
Also it depends what you mean by 'the' spike protein as the name refers to different proteins of different molecular weights and different amino acid sequences depending who you ask. An antibody to each one, separated by ion affinity or whatever, can be raised in animals and it may be detected in tissue sections. Though of course this technique doesn't show provenance to a 'chickenpox virus' ,'SARS 'spike protein' nor anything.
Hi Christine, I'm going to bang my antibody drum again. The existence of very specific (misnamed) 'antibodies' to thousands of proteins has been demonstrated millions of times over, they are a wonder of nature.
The issue is that there is no reason to think that the proteins they bind to, some which may well be produced by the body to stimulate detox symptoms, come from a 'virus' and not the cell. Antibodies to these proteins are produced by the body weeks after the detox event so can't be involved in 'immunity' to an 'infection'. Neutralising antibodies (that block the CPEs caused by adding the samples from sick patients to cell culture, or just be stressing cell cultures) are produced in up to 30x titre in the convalescent, homeostatic phase of detox.
As we know it's all part of the whole misunderstanding of what illness is https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/if-viruses-dont-exist-what-about
Hi G&D. Chris was referring to antibodies that are supposedly highly specific to a "chickenpox virus", so that is what I was commenting on. I would also challenge one to provide evidence of antibodies that are specific to "the spike protein".
I've not looked into antibodies generally, but have read your description of the procedure in mice and didn't find it convincing. It's very unnatural and seems like indirect and inconclusive evidence - injecting mice with a (purified?) human protein, killing them, fusing B cells from their spleens with cancer cells, adding PEG, then adding all of that to a tissue section, adding dye and then observing where the dye goes?? And not doing the same procedure with other loads of other injected substances as controls?
No offence, but it sounds pretty sketchy to me.
Hi Chrisitne, thanks for the clarification
No offence taken. The technique is not sketchy at all and the procedure IS done with loads (thousands) of other injected substances acting as controls, all of them staining specifically where expected over and over in tissue morphology and not where not expected. You have not had my experience and I'm not good at conveying how established and reproducible and amazing this direct and conclusive phenomena is. It's nothing at all like virology. No matter.
Also it depends what you mean by 'the' spike protein as the name refers to different proteins of different molecular weights and different amino acid sequences depending who you ask. An antibody to each one, separated by ion affinity or whatever, can be raised in animals and it may be detected in tissue sections. Though of course this technique doesn't show provenance to a 'chickenpox virus' ,'SARS 'spike protein' nor anything.